Group: sci.research.careers
From: alexy
Date: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Official image of the modern manager

Old Pif wrote:

>On Sep 6, 4:31 pm, Straydog wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps Old Pif will be good enough to clue us in a little more on details
>> of how the short list was created (in house or by 3rd party).
>>
>
>Sure. First of all our organization does not use headhunters. People
>get in in two ways: by referral and by invitation. Those two are
>different in that referral means passing a resume to a hiring manager
>and invitation means that somebody who has an authority to start
>hiring process invites a guy whom he met at a conference or some place
>else.
>
>So, that particular guy has been invited. A peculiar thing about this
>place is that a job description is not generated every time they hire
>somebody. The difference between the case with specific job
>description and no job description is purely nominal as a person might
>never perform the duty ever. The paper is simply forgotten the moment
>he crosses the door. In the case discussed no specific job description
>has been formulated and the guy is supposed to comply with the general
>job description that applies to his level.
>
>I don't know what the invitee told him, but apparently something has
>been missed. In particular, he has not been explained what is expected
>from the manager of his level. He apparently draw his ideas about
>organization from its web-site and perhaps has been misled by the
>invitee as he tried to present himself - very successfully I must
>admit - as a technical expert with ideas. That is the worst image he
>could choose. Hiring a person like him would create uncomfortable
>situation for existing management. They can not speak his language and
>they don't understand him. That is why in my opinion he has not been
>hired. And I congratulate him for that.

Well, that's certainly different from the picture I had formed. In
that case, I'd say that the inviter was not as much to blame as what I
previously assumed had been a headhunter or other screener. A
headhunter or internal hiring manager should be probing for what the
job requires, and matching candidates to that job. The inviter as you
describe here can't be expected to do that.

I wonder if he realizes that his not being hired was probably a good
thing for him? I think that is often the case.
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