Group: alt.politics.economics
From: Video61@tcq.net
Date: Saturday, September 08, 2007 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: the simple minded conservatives have been saying "just negotiate, and this will work itself out", but the progressives are saying" hey, the free market has hung itself again, But these days, a loan servicing company would have to pluc k that $200,00

On Sep 7, 9:57 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
> Vide...@ wrote:
> > On Sep 7, 7:45 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
> >> Vide...@ wrote:
> >>> of course this mess will require government action to unwind this free
> >>> market debacle
> >>
>
> >>> "My credit record is good, but if this goes on it will stain it, and
> >>> make it harder for me to do anything to fix this," said Salazar, who
> >>> is married with three children. "It's too scary. I just wanted the
> >>> American dream for my family."
> >> This is the financial equivalent of the twinkie defense. Bummer, man -
> >> you lose. It's harder when you're stupid.
>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Les Cargill
>
> > unless he was lied to les.
>
> I actually agree - he probably *was*, but... what practical thing
> can be done to *fix* that? You mistake my sense of resignation for
> actual cycnicism.
>

you, cynical, gasp.


> I am just embarrased for this guy - he should have known better. I
> must invoke the "can't cheat an honest man" thing here. *HE*
> signed the paper.
>

please les, either you feel sorry for him, or you think he is a
chump, which is it cynic?
what if he was desperate to get his family into a stable situation,
and was lied to.
libertarians lack what it takes to be a complete human being. you are
missing things in your psyche.
try walking in someone else's shoes. but i am wasting my time. i have
said that to you many times before

> If you're saying "well, he can't be trusted to enter into contracts
> for himself", then where is he?

but you are directly contradicting libertarian dogma here. both
parties are rational correct?
no rational human being would sign a document like that unless they
are not rational, or are being lied to. so les, i have shown you the
error of your ideology again. aren't you getting tired of being taken
to the shed?

And now you've put me in the
> position of being grateful for all the "forty miles
> uphill in the snow" stories I got as a youngster.
>

you of course think all situations are like that. i am just
mentioning to you that that is your dogma others must live by.

> > in the past you have been a gullible
> > defender of this system. now it might be biting you in the ass,
>
> Hardly. And of "this system"? Not once. I stick to the portions of
> economics that can be shown demonstrably to be true. I was
> calling housing bubble on ... years ago (I'm too lazy
> to Google).
>

you probably were. except you have no idea why it started, by whom,
or for what.
your ideology allows this to happen. it is purely a private sector
debacle. no government interference of any sort.
where was the self regulation?
you know little about real sustainable equitable economics.

> > and
> > you are so stupid and mean that you blame the victim. you are a piece
> > of crap.
>
> And you're a stinky doo-doo head. Neener neener neener. See? I can
> revert to kindergarten , too.
>

except in your case, its true. need i remind you of your hero
frederick hayek, and your defense of a man who was a collaborator with
employers of nazi war criminals?


> --
> Les Cargill